Infamous Podcast Episode 518 - Buckle Up for Titans Hey, welcome back to the Infus podcast. This is Brian. And this is the offended Daryl for being interrupted while I was speaking. Anyway, Daryl was trying to do some maths and I wasn't having any of it. Welcome back to episode 518, buckle up for Titans. Daryl, how are you? All right, and my math was immaculate. Thank you very much. Okay, Scott Steiner. Anywho, uh, if you read, did you read the, uh, um, what's it called? The subhead for this week? No, I did not. Apparently Tim is him. Hey, carjack somebody. He had a gun. He was kind of in control. It was like, what more can we ask for? He was the backup hunter on his football team in high school. Let's go That was that was actually kind of go. But yeah, I'm I'm out on Tim. Like, I'm really out on him as a character. Die already. Wow. Wow. I know, that's, yeah, I know. And you call yourself a Christian. It's a character. I can wish death upon a character. You're a character as much as I want. Oh, I mean, I'm definitely a character. I am very comfortable saying that. Anyway. How are you? Doing pretty well. Yeah. Yes. Did you, I know it's not on the list, but I know we talked about it for like 2 minutes this morning. Yeah, that Odyssey trailer. Oh, yeah, no, I didn't watch it and I'm not going to watch it because I read that Ellen Page is going to be Achilles maybe. And I don't even care if it's somebody just fucking around on the internet and it's not true. The fact that the opportunity exists. So, again, I like Christopher Nolan's film. Sometimes I think he gets in his own way, like trying to be extremely intellectual. Even again, he has some great movies. Also, I didn't realize this is he is using the translation that was done in 2017 by this woman who's apparently a feminist and uh, that kind of possibly changed some of the text and did what a lot of anime is going through right now with these translators is they're putting their own, and again, I haven't read it. So I'm not saying she's doing this, but I'm saying what it comes across as and what other people I've seen other people mention is, and I know this for a fact with anime is anime and manga. These regional translators are putting their own beliefs in politics and what they think should be said in this stuff. It's it's very gross. It's, it's not your job to put, put your opinions on something else. It's your job to the best of your abilities to translate what you believe based on the characters based on the story, based on the time frame, what that author is trying to say. Take your beliefs out of it. Take what you think out of it. So again, I don't know if that's, yeah. But it's not even just that, it's the visual, and then the fact that they're speaking with American accidents, the fact that Matt Damon in one point says, let's go. It's just, I was looking forward to this movie. And then I saw this trailer. My enthusiasm for this trailer dropped like the Hindenburg after seeing this trailer. I mean, I'll probably still go see it, but I, like if I, if I don't go see it until 2 weeks later, 3 weeks later, if I don't go see, if I wait till it comes on stream. I don't know. But I, and again, both love those type of movies. You ready? Yes, we do love those movies. The 2017 translation is Emily Wilson's The Odyssey. Not Homer's. Published by WW Norton, it's a big deal for a few reasons. The headline is Wilson was the 1st woman to publish the complete English translation of Homer's Odyssey. For Nolan, the Big Hook seems to be that Wilson's framing the Odysseus has a complicated man. Nolan reportedly cited opening the idea of part, that opening idea as part of what attracted him to the character, not just a warrior, but a strategist, survivor, liar, improvisor, and deeply morally slippery dude. Um, so it's different. It uses clean modern English. She kept the original line count. Her translation preserves the poems, 1200, 12,110 lines, matching Homer line for line. That's a weird technical flex because she's not just summarizing but smoothing things over. So she's translating within the hard structure. She's using iambic pantameter instead of um the Greek dialectic hexameter. And she's a much sharp, and she's much sharper about power class slavery and gender. Oh my god. A feminist wrote a book about power. And gender? Wow. Emily Wilson should go fuck herself. Do you disagree? Again, should I soften it? I'm going to pair. She should go dive in a volcano. I'm going to paraphrase Sam Neal from Jurassic Park. I don't want to jump to conclusions here, but it smells like it could be one big pile of shit. Ah, yeah, I agree. Anyway. Yeah, I'm just not like when I saw Ellen Page was involved. I'm all the way out. Yeah, I didn't get it. She was in she was in the, um, Inception, you know, as Alan Page, and she was a good character in a good movie. It's one of the few Nolan movies I really like. Um, the other being Batman begins. The prestige? I still haven't watched it. I can't speak to it. Prestigious. I own it. I bought it because it's 499 and I buy 499 movies whenever there's one I don't own. So, um, but yeah, like Tenant, like, I saw Tenant once. I tried to watch Tenet again. I'm like, oh, no, this is not great. Tenet, it's like one of those movies that it tries to be very high brow, but it can't get out of its own way. Anyway. Um, yeah, so, all right. I don't I don't know. You want to move on? Yeah, let's move on because there were some good stuff to talk about. All right. So we're going to start talking about bad stuff. And pretty much the, uh, the summation of Lord of the Flies on Netflix. Um, which was done by BBC, um, um, the, what was it? Hold on. Yeah, it was like the BBC or whatever. Anyway, do not watch this limited series. If you're a fan of the book. Um, if you're a fan of weird artsy pseudo-intellectual bullshit. It's right up your alley. Um, so they took what was a 12 chapter book. Condensed it down to 4 parts. Which, to be honest, they could have gotten all of this done into 2 hours, just like the one from the 80s. Um, But, Piggy had a point of view episode, Jack had a point of view episode. Simon had a point of view episode, and then Ralph had the point of view episode. Now here's the other fun thing. They just intermixed the kids, like with race. There was like, tell me, like, how many, well, when did, in 1950s, how many Asian kids were running around in England? Right? Like how many black kids were running around in England in 1950? Like more than half the cast was not white. And like, here's the thing. I really don't have much of an issue about it. But when you change Ralph to a black kid, the way that dragged Jack treats him at the end, it's the same thing Harry Potter's going to be dealing with with a black snake. All of a sudden. And by the way, the kid who played Jack Lox Pratt is Malfoy in Harry Potter. Oh, really? Yeah. So, um, Somehow for Piggy, they found a 10-year-old kid who looks exactly like Winston Churchill. Like Stan's like him, has a belly like him. It was insane. Um, They tried to get like super cute with this and make it like artsy and, um, like this weird like jazz like undertone to Hans Zimmer score that was so distracting. Um, Like, they changed some stuff, obviously. Um, like the, the guy that parachuted in when Simon finds him in the woods. Uh, Just land in the middle of the ocean, and none of them noticed. Like that kind of, it's like, it's like that kind of stuff. Oh, Peggy's death in episode four. Was 20 minutes of screen time. When Roger, in the book, and then the other movie, literally drops a boulder on him, kills him instantly, cracks his skull open. Instead, him and Ralph or Ralph's more, like, is just carrying him through the woods, as he's slowly bleeding to death, out of the back of his head, and trying to like, you know, like have a conversation, and it's just, 0 my god, it was, I literally, I watched this, and, and, I finished watching. We, like, I 100% hate watch this. I hated it and I hate myself for watching it. I watched this, Daryl, so you don't have to watch it. Thank you. It was like, after, let me just say, after what happened with the killer, the fact that you talked about this, didn't have me, why, because I was going to say, hey, I can watch this for next weekend, we can talk about it. But the fact that you took the bullet for me, I thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. So now I realize that when you say you bet my life, you're, you don't mean it anymore. And I, I, I'm just so thankful for that. Thank you. I just got to say, like Mark Munden, the guy who directed this, is obviously some kind of creep, right? Like, it was just, like, they were wearing, like, like, bark, like, they looked like the people from the strangers. Like with the masks and like like the one kid looked like Breitburn. Um, it was just bad, bad, bad. All the way around. Like, I will say this. The kids were fine. They acted their little hearts out. It's not their fault that, like, Um, Mark Munden and, uh, Jack Thorne, who was the writer? Um, have their heads firmly shoved up their assholes. And the other thing is, like, the island was like, it had all this, like, beautiful like Baz Luhrmann style flora. And I'm pretty sure Simon was jaundiced the whole movie, the way they lit him. So. Anyway, so Daryl, out of 10, it would be better not to try at all. I give this a one out of 10. And you, my friend, are lucky with a DNW. After hearing that, I'm very, very grateful. And I'm actually kind of holding some stuff back because I just don't want to get that angry. Anyway. Let's move on. To uh, to something that I came around on. There we go. All right, Mall Shadow Lord, episode 9 and 10, the season finale, because there's going to be a 2nd one. Um, All right. So we get Dryden Voss, not just the hologram of him. Oh, by the way, I will say, I did watch seven, eight, 9, and 10. We're only going to review these two. I, to quote Daryl, or paraphrase Daryl. I thought episode 7 was cinema. Anyway, um, and then it just got better. I didn't really care for eight, but like 9 and 9 and 10 got better. Uh, so we we get VOS, um, making an offer to mall. Like, we'll get you off of, or St. Patrick Patches. Words are hard. Safe passage off of Janix. And exchange for all taking the reins of Cremson Dawn. Um, you know, which ties, like, here we are, tying into solo, trying to make, to be fair, he's saying, take out the boss of Crimson Dawn, so I can be the head of.. That one's true. Right. Which I find that hilariously just naive to think, okay, I'm gonna hire this uber powerful guy to kill the guy whose position I want and I'm gonna trust him to do that and not basically run roughshod over me. But, you know, aspiration. Yeah, right. Like, yeah, I don't I don't know. It's just one of those things. But, uh, but yeah, so it's like, cool. Okay. Um, but I, I, I did like this. I liked his ship, at least from the outside. I like the design of it, but, um, I will say, at the end of the day, I thought, like, the whole pacing for episode nine, um, led really well into what happened in episode 10. Um, because who showed up at the end of episode 9? Lord Vader. Lord Vader. Um, yeah, I just thought it was, it was really cool. Um, and he didn't talk at all. It was just hack slash Vader that I thought was just insanely cool. And yes, the fact that he didn't speak at all. And he looked like he was just, it looked like he was a black belt going to get some like 2 week old blue white belts. Oh, yeah. Like, all 3 of them. And just the, and I mentioned one time, when I, when I, when it, when the battle 1st started, I'm like, his economy of motion is just so pristine. It's just, okay, I got to go here, here. None of the, you know, crazy, well, he can't really do that now, like the crazy flips and stuff, but it is just, it was just incredible. And this is... Like when you see Star Wars stuff like this, one, it reminds you of how good Star Wars can be. And two, it also angers me because I know what Star Wars can be and what they've given us. Especially like most, most specifically the movies and some of the, you know, some of the shows too. But, man, watching, uh, you know, you know what the term now is, you know, crash out. Watching basically mall crash out. Like, who, what are you? What's going on here? And just progressively crash out as he is just him, Docky and Devin are just getting rebuffed time after time after time? I'm curious if the ball would have like stood a better chance if his leg wasn't damaged. Yeah, I mean, he would have, but he still wouldn't be able to beat Vader. Um, he just, I mean, Vader is what who he is. Um, but yeah, it's just so weird though. And one of the things going back to episode 8, and you were saying. One of the things I had issues with was him on being unable to basically being worked over by Marrow and the 11th brother. And I know they were trying to talk about his leg. Well, It's so weird because his leg didn't give him problems against Vader, really, until Vader hit it. Right. It's like, and again, we talk, we, you know, this happens in in comics all the time, the whole power scaling thing, and I'm getting this war. I know Star Wars theory talked about it, but I think the same thing, though, because you see it in movies and we see it in comics all the time. Is this character is this powerful except when they don't need to be because the plot requires that they do X, Y, and Z or vice versa sometimes as well. So, I mean, in episode, that's one of the things I had a little issue with is how, like, I thought mall should have been a lot more, especially if, dude, if he's in pain, he's a Sith. He's going to take that pain. That's going to use that. They're fed by. Pain and anger. Now, yeah, it's not going to matter against Vader. I don't think, because Vader's just far above him right now, but against the 11th brother against Marrow, that should have made a difference of him instead of him being on the, basically on the back foot the whole fight. So, that was one of my issues, like my biggest issue with episode eight, but 9 and 10, I thought, just was so well done from a choreography standpoint from the storytelling standpoint, not just with the whole mall thing, watching Devin, watching mall, and Docky fighting together at one point. That was really cool. That was really a Jedi and a scyth fighting together. Was really cool. Then you go to Lawson and his, and then I'm using parentheses here because, or air quotes because I don't know if he's dead. I don't think he is because I don't know. He went full Elias. In Platoon. But that was really cool. Watching him. That was really... And the reason I say that. Uh, is because he saw what Maul did to Docky. Yeah. And that's just kind of curious for to for them to show that he sees that. And then, well, he's dead now. Although at the same time, I don't know how he would survive that either. It's one of those, you know? He got perforated with some human hole punchers. Really, really a lot. Well, more carterized, but well, I mean, the holes, there are holes in him. They go through you. So, well, again, that's one of those things when they want them to. Yeah. Anyway. Hey, real quick, the Sith code, ready? Pieces of lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength, through strength, I gain power, through power. I gain victory. Through victory. My chains are broken, the force shall free me. Like... Mall, in, in every instance, fighting Vader. Like, and malls a powerful force user. He's not just a dualist. That's the thing that, like, you know, you don't, you didn't really see there. I mean, you saw it a little bit when he was trying to like bring down like, you know, his go-to move is just to crush people with stuff, which I'm here for. And I thought that scene was great. Like Vader's like blocking stuff, cutting stuff, just bouncing off his dome. Like, it's like, all right, all right. Let's, let's, boys, let's put the laser swords away and let's, uh, let's have a true gentleman's battle against, uh, who is the better dark side force wheeler. And go. Yeah. Also, your dad's a good point about the force. Both him and Doki together could only push Vader, you know, what, 10 feet backwards, which was, I love that, like the aesthetic of him going back and like almost on one knee. Yeah. And being like, dude, you're not ready for me. You don't want this smoke. And one another one of my favorite part is obviously, and I mean, we kind of knew this. We, well, we didn't kind of, we knew this from the start that Docky was not going to make it out of this season. No, no. Was it sure how? I assumed that Devin was going to kill him. Yeah, go to embrace her full talent, but like, I feel like this is even better because like when she went, she went. And I told you, like... Oh, yeah. Like her, that's, I love, I love that addition, like her voice change in there. You know what it reminded me of? Right. Anyway. Yeah, they all they all got to have that like guttural scream. But yeah, like, I mean, she's definitely Darth Talent. Oh, yeah. I mean, I said it from the 1st episode, but, like, she's definitely breath talent. And, um, I was telling you, like, I kind of zoned out a little bit because I watched 4 in a row and I'm not used to like sitting and watching that much in a row anymore. Um, and I kind of zoned out a little bit and all of a sudden she had a red lightsaber. Like, did they go full acolyte here and turn the lights in? Oh, right. And so I rewound it. I was like, oh, this is where she loses hers. This is where Ma gives him or gives her his other half. Now, you know, anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yes. So before we get to this course, have you heard the rumor that's going around that the new people at Disney are like, well, we're gonna do what we can to make the sequel series not Canon. I heard that and I will believe that when I see it. I don't believe it for a second. I'm not a believe it when I see it person any, like, I'm, I'm just, I'm just, Oh, no, actually, nothing happening. Well, that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. Like, I will believe it when it actually happens. But here's the thing, though, is that they do do it. That means the Mandalorian and Grogu is probably going to be decanonized as well. And I'm okay if we decanonize Grogu. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. The only good Grogu is in a satchel getting punched Grogu. We just watched that episode. It's just my favorite scene. It's like my 5th favorite scene in all of Star Wars. Uh, but, I mean, I would love for that to happen. Actually, you know what? I don't I truly don't care. Uh, and when I say I don't care. It's like as right, if they as writers, just write stuff, good stuff, of course, and just ignore the sequels without expressively decanonizing it, I'm just as fine with that as I'm saying, okay, this is what we're purposefully doing. I truly don't care as long as they still can tell good stories with good characters. And when I say good characters, as much as I like her. Ray is not a good character. The way they wrote her is not a good character. Right. And that's not Daisy Ridley's fault. That's not Daisy Ridley. I like Daisy really. The way they wrote her character. They had so much potential for her character. They had so much potential for Kylo Ren. They had so much potential for... The Knights of Ren. They had so much potential for Finn. Finn and Po. And Maz Canada. Yeah, and and they shit the bad. Yeah. I, here's the mistake. I think they made. Hiring Ruin Johnson. Well, that's a given. The big mistake they made is Ray should have been Han Solo. No powers, just a scavenger. And Finn should have been the Jedi. The idea of a stormtrooper with latent powers and having a crisis of conscience. And having made it through the, not Stormtrooper, the, um, First Order Trooper training. Yeah, and getting through that. And Kylo, who's powerful in the force, not knowing, that would have been, again, like a chef's kiss story. It almost writes itself, but here's yeah. Good. But here's what. No, I was just going to, it just all writes itself, unless you're these writers. Yeah, well, yeah. So the thing is, is like, the only thing that you have to change in the force awakens. Is that Ray is a Jedi. Ray can get a lucky shot and scar Kylo Ren because Finn lost. And then Finn has to fight his way back to becoming or to becoming a Jedi. Oh, man. Instead, we got girl power, because the 4th female. Anyway. All right, let's go back to them all. Okay. Rating for episodes 8 and 9 out of 10. Vader comes. What do you give? 9.4 out of 10. You are crazy ho. I I absolutely love these two. Like the, and again, you asked me, um, when, when, when I told you how good it was, you, you asked me how it compared to the Clone Wars. And I said, like from a action standpoint, it was up there. It just didn't have the same emotional weight quite because, again, Clone Wars. I don't care about any of these characters. And you, yeah, well, I mean, you followed Ahsoka for how long in that in that show and saw her grow from a brat to what she was, you saw the training that Anakin gave her that actually shows forethought and foresight from writers, like, and then she actually uses that training to escape. So I mean, I love this. It just, it didn't quite reach that for me, just from an emotional standpoint, but investment standpoint, when you, when, when Vader came in, and oh, by the way, RIP wrote cast. But when Vader came in, I mean, phenomenal. Yeah. No, I agree. Real quick, the training that she did where she was like fighting the troopers in the circle was in Tales of the Jedi after season 7 aired. So there was no forethought. It was just, oh, hey, let's like shoehorn this in. Oh, um, anyway. Um, sorry. I even 8 out of 10. No, I just not just heard a knocking on the door. Where's that coming from? You heard me knocking, didn't you? No. I did not. It might be. I don't know. Um, I gave an 8 out of 10. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was great. The only reason I really, like, deducted points at all was because I didn't care for the first... I didn't care for 7 of the 10 episodes. So, um, do you even, I thought you, I, so do you actually watch 3 through six? Oh, I guess I didn't watch 5 and six. So I missed 2 episodes. So of what I saw, I liked less than half. Um, anyway. So for the season out of 10, mall, not Darth, just mall. What do you give it? Oh, crap, where is my, oh, here we go. Out of the season. It is an 8.8 out of 10. Um, again, this is what Star Wars can be and should be. I mean, that's all I'll say. That's all I need to say. It should just be animated. So anyway. I gave it a 6 out of 10. Mainly because of the episodes I liked. I really liked 3 of them. So, it seems fair. Considering I didn't watch 2 of them. Yeah, that's fair. So anyway. All right. So moving on from the finale of mall, we are moving on to the finale of monarch legacy of monsters. Um, Obviously, episode 10, this episode called or was called Where We Belong, um, directed by Lawrence Thrilling, and then people wrote the show. Um, All right. I liked, I think I liked this more. No, yeah, just barely more than you. But I thought this was a great culmination episode for a finale. And it did a couple of things before we even talk about it, is it tied up a whole bunch of loose ends. And then it left us with somewhere to go. If it gets a 3rd season. Which we won't see for another 8 years anyway. I mean, it's going to be like 2248 before we get the next one. So. Yeah. So, uh, the past in this one was 6 weeks later or 6 weeks prior. Um, But we did get um, a nice. Actually, we got kind of a scene that I'd been wanting with Lee. Um, it was a little different than I anticipated, but I love the, uh, I love the emotion, and I loved the fact that olderly was the translator for youngerly. Right. I thought that was that was really well done and literally put a bow on stuff. As far as you're saying, it's a culmination. I, this is, this was a very good finale, but also highlight at some of the mistakes for me. Because one of the things we said, was it last week or week before, oh, I forgot that Kate was a science teacher. Yeah. Well, she signed the shit out of that bitch this week. That was never used not one time. In the whole series until now. And it's like, why she would have been so much more of an interesting character if they would have leaned into that? Because they're doing science shit. Right. Why did not? Why didn't they use her her science smart? At all until now. And that was one of the frustrating things, and especially again, we know how good of an actor's Anasawa is. We saw her in, um, Shogun, and apparently she was in Fast 9 and 10, which I still haven't watched 10, but I don't I've only seen 9 ones. I can't think of where she was, but I would love to get, see her get more stuff because, you know, she can do what, she can channel her inner shogun performance. She's going to go a long place because she's only has like 8 credits. So she's not been acting long. But I intuitively don't even know about in.. In the fast movies. Oh, yeah, right? So, again, the last couple episodes were far and away the best episodes for her as a character because she actually had shit to do other than crying and complaining and being a general nuisance. And so this was probably, if not her best episode, like, I would say, 2nd best. I think it's maybe the 2nd best behind when she does the communication, like, with, you know, works with cake mode, you know, kind of get that communication going on with Titan X. We had a great fight, speaking of tight necks. I mean, this again, this is a TV show and yes, there are moments where it looked really, really bad. Like, but not the not the monsters. But when the humans are, the monsters are fighting and the humans are running and the monsters are in a background. There were a couple times where it looked really bad, but the monsters themselves, the way they fought. I watched a video the other day on why Hollywood feels. Um, what was the word, uh, fake when you see like a Jurassic world now or you watch a movie like, um, uh, what was the 2nd um, uprising um, Pacific Rim versus looking at Pacific Rim, the original. And it's because there is weight. There's weight in the movement. Oh, you can't, when, when, something is big. Yeah. When something is big, it should not, even it shouldn't move fast. It shouldn't move like, you know, something that is small. And I think they did a pretty good job of that in this show. And the CG in general for a TV show. It's, it's with the monsters, it's so well done. So well done. Oh, yeah. I mean, tight necks, considering how complicated that kaiju was. Like, right. It looked great. It looked great. During the Kong fight. I have, I have a beef to, a bone to pick with, uh, tight necks is, uh, fighting acumen, and, um, not, you know, taking advantage of its octopus style of, um, anatomy, but, I don't know, it was also trying to protect its baby. Right. Uh, yeah, no, I, I, like, I fully agree. I just think. The love and attention that goes into this show all the way around. It is great. And like, the things that are missteps are typically from errant writing. And I'm not even going to say bad writing. I just think it's errant right? Yeah, because they forget things. And like... I think that's a very good differentiation. We were talking about Star Wars a minute ago and the choices which weren't errant writing. It was just bad writing. Errant writing is where, in this case, it's like, they have the good concept, but sometimes, like you said, like, and you said that about, I'm trying to think of what you said that a while ago about something where it was like, they just kind of forgot that this was a thing. I mean, this might have been a while ago, but I don't know what it was. I mean, it happens a lot. It tends, it can happen. But it doesn't tear down the whole story. Like, so as much as I didn't like Kate, as much as them not tying into her science aspect or her science, you know, proficiencies, it kind of messed up her character for me, it didn't mess up the surrounding story necessarily. And here's the thing. Had they like reminded us of that, you know, I do think, I do think the whole thing of them throwing her into a room hits harder because you're like, all right, how's she going to get out of this? Because I'm like, all right, what happenstance thing is going to go on where the door opens. Because they turned her into, instead of, you know, which is really funny with the whole girl boss era of things. Like they turned her into a damsel in address. Yes, until this episode, really. Yeah, that they really did. They really did, yes. So, um, but yeah, I think, um, I think May really grew on me a lot this episode too. I know how you feel about me. I don't like... She didn't whine once. Not one time in the whole episode. So like progress. And I know you want Tim's character, not the actor that plays Tim. Tim's character to shuffle off this mortal coil. But I actually thought the last couple episodes of Tim were like much better than we've gotten from Tim. So I, this is the thing with Tim for me. I think he works better when he has a serious, um, boss or whatever, and you can play that, like, so when the, what was her name that got, you know, iced in the 1st episode or 2nd episode or whatever. Yeah. That was the 1st episode right there on the, uh, when Tightnex came out. Yeah. Like, I think he works better in that because, you know, you have, she's like the straight man or whatever. You have a character like that, and then you have Tim. So I think my disdain for Tim grew as the season went on because of how he was used and there was no filter necessarily from his just, I'm going to call it ridiculousness, but it's not really ridiculousness. His special brand of.. Of dealing with things. Yeah, this special brand of Tim. Okay, yeah. Um, but yeah, no, I get what you're saying. I actually do agree with you, but I just think the last couple episodes, like, they evolved him a little bit to where he doesn't need to be the doofy guy, and the doofy thing we got was he's like, oh, I'm Pat McAfee. Um, you know, like backup hunter on his high school team. Like, that's Pat McAfee, right? Which I just found hilarious. And the form tackle he did was great. Now, what I didn't need is when he got into the other burgers, oh, that really hurt. Like, you ruined it. Yeah. Like, great. The ick came back. Right. So, and we do get, you know, after everything is done and they, you know, they send tight necks on. We do get to see that they, hey, they're re- Monarch 2.0. Uh, what my, what I'm curious about is how this monarch 2.0 leads into, Well, this is the other thing. I actually have, not even before I say that, where do the last couple movies end up on the timeline from a year standpoint? Do you know? So this is 2007. It's like the Kong X, Godzilla, and the what? No, like not, you mean 2017? 17, sorry. 2017. So the the Kong Godzilla and the Kong Godzilla Kong, no. Yeah, Godzilla Kong, new gods. New Empire. New Empire is, like, their, that stuff is after this. Okay. Like, it's not happening at the same time. Okay, yeah, that's where I was trying to figure out. I was still trying to figure out what, like, you know, what, what, what's the order? And so how does it the 1st Godzilla, and then this, and then the 2nd Godzilla happens sometime. There was a 2nd one, right? So, wait, Wiscong Kong Island. And then Godzilla. And then this stuff is happening, and King of Monsters is like right around here. Okay. So. Okay. But yeah, I just, I don't know. The other thing, the other one, the my biggest issue, my biggest issue with this episode, was they need to get Titan X going in the right direction. It's huge. It's got tentacles, it doesn't move very fast. And then Shaw gets the recording, he has the helicopter, but then he stops to pick everybody up. So I didn't go back. To see. When he finds sees the helicopter initially, does that helicopter already have the speakers on them? Yes. Because that was the one that they were using in the last episode, at the beginning of the episode, ended during last episode to try and draw Kong out. Right, because that was the one thing I was they were there. So the biggest, I will say this, the biggest... Pet, not pet peeve, but nitpick. Because, again, I'm not saying it shouldn't have been in there. It absolutely need to should have been in there. But the way when he goes to Thailand and because he's looking for Isabel and at the very end, I thought that should have been an epilogue where you start the credits and then you go to that. Yeah. And you could have done the whole 6 week later stinger there too. Like, yeah, yeah. I, it's a small nitpick that I know. It's it's not a substance in the sense of messing with anything from a story standpoint. It's just the order of operations, you know. But, I mean, overall, I thought this was a fantastic end to the season and it really, it brought things together and as much as, you know, I've had issues with this show, with this season. But I do think the last few episodes specifically the way they ended it, I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, we also didn't talk about how whipped Kantaro is. Well, it's funny you say that because everybody thinks he is, and I don't think he is. I think he is, I think he's more focused on bringing his dad and people, yeah, and people keep looking at him like, uh, you don't know what you're doing. She's she's using you and especially this episode. I think more than ever. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. He has a plan whether that plan works or not. I don't know. I mean, so wait, is he because he has because he has missed prey next to him. You know, that, you know, that's just, you know, cool. You know, a ride or die companion who wants similar things, but, you know, he wants what he wants more, even though he knows that they're not totally aligned. I think he's he's ready. He's ready to do what he can to get his. I think he feels safer with her in case of predator attacks. Uh, yes, after she whipped up on a guard, uh, which in a, again. I don't, that was Karen Page for me. I will say the little, like, throat punch, I get, but then knocking him out, I was not. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like the throw punch you can get away with because it's just a quick move and he's not paying attention. Yeah. But anyway. Um, okay. So for this episode, out of five, starring Quintero as Kate. What do you give this episode? 435 out of five. Excellent. Excellent finale. Yep. I gave it a 4038. Um, I think this was the best episode of the season to, to be fair. I think they saved the best for last. We got an amazing fight between Titan X and Kong. And, um, Like you were talking about the, the, the weight of that fight was felt in every move and like not just from like the 2 of them, the way they were hitting each other and biting each other, but from the just the, the aesthetic design of everything, like the, the way the trees moved, the way the wind moved. Um, the way Kiko was like, you know, female Asian driver driving into tentacles constantly. It's like... It was great. All right. So for the season, out of 10, why did Titan accidentally fight with 2 tentacles most of the fight? Uh, he might be a carrots, and the other the other arms might be his feeding arms. No, easier to break. I know. I just, like, it bottled my mind as to why he didn't just hop on or she didn't hop on Kong's back and choke the motherfucker out. Anyway. Toke a gorilla out. I gave this an 8 points. I'm going to go first. I gave this an 8.6 out of 10. I am a huge fan of this show. Um, I'll definitely watch Monarch 2.0. Whatever they do. I don't need Kurt Russell in this show to enjoy it, but I do want Kurt Russell in this show to enjoy it more. Yeah. So one of the things I do is with these shows, I have a running counter for my season and it goes up and down depending on how the episode goes and then I reevaluate after the season's over. Uh, this show has got up to a 7.5 out of 10 with me, uh, it was definitely, it was in the 5 range early on, and then it got to the 6s and it was in the 6th range for pretty much the whole season. Well, like from season episode 5 or six. It was in that 6th range. And this episode. This is how good this episode was, not just for a single episode, but how it tied things back or tie things up. It almost raised it a full point for me for the season to get that 7.5 out of 10. Yeah, okay, nice. All right. Um, let's move on. Are you ready to talk about born again this season finale? Let's do this. All right, daredevil born again. What are we on here? Episode eight. Um, the southern crisis, right? Yeah, the Southern Cross. Well, did you know? Did you know that the North Star and Southern Cross must never fight? No, I did not. Fist of the North Star fans get it. I know. I know. I know. You're talking about something in the language I don't understand. I'm just going to ignore it. All right. You're already dead. All right. So, uh, Karen's, um, trial continues. She Hill Riders. Please watch the show. If you ever find your way into a Rider's room again, which I hope none of you do. And you happen to be in a writer's room for a court drama. Put your pencil down and walk out because this is how you do it. I don't understand. I truly don't understand. How Marvel led a show like She-Hulk, get away. And again, I'm not talking about breaking of the 4th wall. I'm not talking about that stuff. I'm talking, look, you want a female character to be empowered. And yet the court scenes because she is a lawyer. Look like they were written by a 4th grader who has never written anything before in their life and it's just, you know, playing with their G.I. Joe's and say, hey, let's do this. I mean, and then you have something like Daredevil. And again, even if you go back to the original Daredevil was the same way, where it almost, the writers, you know, you have your court dramas. You have your law and orders and stuff. This isn't that show, but it takes the courtroom cases and it takes those courtroom scenes seriously. And it does such an impressive job of it. I mean, I was enthralled by the court scenes in this episode. More than anything else, almost. Oh my god. Hold on. So Kate Coreo. Or Korayo? I'm going to say Koro. The, uh, the head writer for um, She-Hawk. You know what show she's currently writing on? And is the executive producer of? Matlock. I didn't stutter. Matlock. I mean, what, like, my mind is bottled. Like who is CBS? Watch She-Hulk. And said, you know what? Let's give this lady another show. It's amazing how some people fail upwards. It's just mind boggling. Anyway, I'm sorry. Um, back to Daredevil. Oh, man. Good gri. What are we doing here? Okay, so this trial's going on. Matt calls, um, well, they present the video and then Matt calls Fisk as a witness. Um, the lawyering between Mads and um, God, what is her name? I keep forget. Yeah. I keep plumbing well. Between Matt and McDuffie. And then, um, Anna Kendrick's dad from from Pitch Perfect. Um, was just great. Um, you know, I just like, it was, it was just one of these things where it's like, this is, this is like, like, it's like I'm watching like a high stakes episode of Suits, and I'm, I'm here for it. Like early seasons when Mike was like just kicking ass and and Harvey wasn't a little wiener. Um, But I thought I thought this was really good. Um, I liked, I thought they used bullseye perfectly in this episode. Yeah. Yeah. Um, perfectly. I do feel like they missed a small, small thing, and I understand why they couldn't do it, but when Bullseye tried to kill Fisk, in the comics, and Captain America takes the bullet for him, and quote, dies. Like, that would have been kind of cool. I know it couldn't. I know why it couldn't happen and I didn't want them to do that to Daredevil. But um, I thought that was interesting. The scene with Buck and Fisk about Daniel was really interesting. I, yeah, that scene, just the non, the non-verbal communication after when he asked Buck, because, like, did Daniel give him, give us what he needed or whatever? What he was supposed to, yeah. And he just says no. And then the look that passes between them. Yeah. Such good acting right there. Yeah, because they're so like, they're sad because they both love Daniel. I really do. I think I do think Fisk actually loved Daniel. Um, yeah. But they're sad because he wasn't, he wasn't who they needed him to be. Yes. And they're sad that they've lost him now. Um, because he was he was a very good ally for Kingpin. You know. But, um, as it goes through, you know, the, the whole thing's going on, when Matt, when Matt shows the video and then they go into the Chambers and Kingpin is whispering to him, because Kingpin suss is out immediately, what Matt's going to do immediately. Yeah. And, um, and Matt, Matt like answers him, even though he can't hear him. And I think that was just a really funny, um, just a really funny scene. Like, it was like, it was a nice break in how serious everything was. Yeah. And then the judge was like, what'd you say? And he was like, I said, let's go. Let's do this. You know, that was it was a great Charlie Cox moment. And I want to like really hope that he like improv whatever he said. Um, but anyway. So, so it goes through and, and, you know, Matt calls in, they go back out and Matt starts calling in the validity of this particular court of what's happening and then drops the I am. Right. Dare devil. Um, Iron Devil. Daredevil. Devil. Daredevil. And like the court like erupts. And then Anna Kendrick's dad from Pitch Perfect stands up and he goes, you expect us to believe a blind lawyer is daredevil. And he just like, doom, doom, doom. I love that. Yeah. And like, it was like, he's like, okay. I guess I got to go pick my daughter up in college from her cappella group now. Well, he basically did a Scotty Pippin to Spike Lee, sit your ass down. 100%. So I really, really like that. I really thought it was interesting how they offered Fisk this deal to just leave New York. Yeah. And, you know, um, McCaffrey, the governor and the attorney general are are like, hey, look, we just want you, you don't have to go home. You just can't stay in New York. So really you can't go home to sleep. Um, And he just goes nuts. And and here's the thing. How did they just let him go? That's he killed like 45 people. I mean, with this band. That was what I was laughing at where I'm just like, okay, I get the deal. I could suspend disbelief, even though Nick, he did some shady stuff. Like, okay, if they just want him gone. And then he just goes like bloodthirsty, breaking people against wall, breaking their backs, which was actually that was pretty sick. I mean, it was it was a cool, dude, talk about the hallway fight scene of the season. Yes. Like, because we didn't have a good hallway, hallway fight. No, we didn't. And you know who didn't need the hall in the hallway fight was Kingpin, not Daredevil. Yeah. And it was great. I did like Jessica and Matt kind of like making their way through the hallways to get to Fisk and how they came out on like they like were opposite sides. But I just like, I really enjoyed this episode a lot. I think that, um, again, like what we were talking about, and this is just a Disney thing. Look, we know what daredevil can be. Just give it to us. Suquila blue tea stack. Us what we want. And they just can't do this. You know, they just have to do these other things. Um, at the end of the day, like, we get Luke Cage in a scene. I really, I really hated that he was in his suit. I don't know why. Like I wanted to have a yellow, the yellow t-shirt and black leather jacket. That's what I really wanted. Like him, him in the suit is like... Yeah. You don't need the tiara. I mean, he always needs a tiara. I mean, that was the biggest miss of the Luke Cage show except for the 1st 5 episodes. But, you know, it was great to see him. I think Mike Coulter is one of, as Luke Cage is one of the greatest casting choices for a comic book character right up there with Charlie Cox right up there with Robert Downey Jr. Oh, I was going to say Finn, what's his name? Or Iron Fist. Look, Laura is the Knight of the Flowers. Got oil dumped on him and is recovering. So... Book readers. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, uh, I just think, like, I know we're going to get another season of this because it definitely ended on a cliffhanger. But if we don't get another season of this, I'm okay. No, they've already shown film, like behind the scenes of Kingpin on the streets. Yeah, in the new little get up or disguise or whatever. So yeah, they're they're already filming. Oh, okay. Sweet. Which, yeah, I just saw that the other day, so it's not like I knew that from the start. Well, I'm in a prison Senate 10 like you did. And I'm going to give you your Loris Knight of the Flowers. You very much. Anyway. But yeah, it's just, yeah, it was cool. Like, super exciting. Yeah, I thought this was another really strong finale and again, to me is my, is the best episode of the season. And again, like I said, the courtroom stuff. I was more enthralled with that than pretty much anything else going on in this episode. Oh, yeah. And that's not a disservice to what else happened in the episode. Was just how well they crafted those scenes. Yeah. All right. So, for this episode. Episode eight. Season two. Daredevil born again. Out of five. I am daredevil. With the proper ellipses punctuation. What do you give this episode? 389 out of five? Uh, again. You know what? I'm gonna go and get the clip of him saying you're a ho. And I'm going to put it on the soundboard. Because you're crazy out. This is a 451 episode. I would even, I would even accept from you. In your less discerning taste of 4.2. Okay. So it lost, uh, you know, a 10th of a point because, uh, the Karen Page scene at the end where she just comes out of nowhere where she's supposed to be hiding in the other room with the mayor and knocks out a guard and then sits next to Daredevil for no reason at all. I'm not going to lie. I forgot that scene happened because I flushed it out of my memory. That was so stupid. Was so dumb. So dumb. I give it a 4 or 5 one. This is my favorite episode of the season mainly because of the courtroom shenanigans. Right there with you. Yeah. And I like how you mentioned the golden age of suits and versus what it ended up becoming. Yeah, I never, I couldn't, I still haven't finished. I just can't. Yeah, I never, yeah. Like, you know, when it became specter lips and whatever, blew a lip. Totally underrated character, by the way. Anyway. Oh, yes. Are you right? Oh, wait, we didn't do that. Did we do all this season? No, we didn't do it on the season. No, we didn't do it this season. So out of the season, it's just too clean. What do you give this? Six, five, six, out of 10. Again, I had a lot of, when I say issues, it wasn't like bad writing, it just didn't draw me in for most, for half of the 1st half of the season, and the last couple episodes, it really started to draw me in, again, phenomenal finale. Very good finale, I should say. Phenomenal, phenomenal was Monarch, but very good finale. I mean, it's it's not, uh, you know, peak cinema, like mall is. But it was still pretty dang good for a Marvel show. Your maths aren't mathing with this score because you never gave it below a three. Okay. I'm just saying, like, it should be like, at least this happened. I know. No. Kidding. Do I have to go there? Okay. With what? You can go wherever you want. I mean, this is partnership. Yeah, well, I was going to say... Or it's a potato shit. It works both ways where in the sense... No, I'm just saying the parts don't always equal to what the whole is. Positive and negative. So I gave this 7, 6, 7.68. I, uh, I like the season. I actually like the season better than last season. Um, I think the 1st couple episodes did a good job this season. I think it lost its way a little bit in the middle. Um, but when Jessica Jones came back, it was uh, all breaks, no gas, Tha. Anyway. All righty then. Are you ready? This is the this is the last show of the episode and it's the only show we're going to review next week from this week. Yeah. Um, The boys, season five, episode six, uh, 2 more episodes to go. I, uh, I like how they made the deep, say all the fish love oil. I couldn't stop laughing when they're like, when he's like, oh, do you mean to go bust up some of the whatevers? And they're like, no, dude, we need you to tell everybody the fish. Oil. He's like, or what did she say? We need you to tell you tell them your girlfriends. Like, well... So one thing I've had an issue with since the introduction of the character, and it plays into this episode. No, is Sister Sage. Oh, and as much as I like the movie, Fantastic Four, one of the things that we talk about, or we see a lot in comics, in movies and shows, whatever, is when you're trying to write, a character that's supposed to be smart, don't tell us. Show us. An example of that. Go to the Sherlock, the Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock Moot, shows or series, whatever they call it. Oh, with the mine palace. And stuff like that, where they show, okay, this guy's smart, even when they bring Moriarty and, oh, this guy's really smart. Never once, never once, literally, never once since she's been in this show. Have, I thought, okay, Sister Sage is really smart. Only one time. The fact that she likes a crunch wrap, Supreme. I mean, I just... And there's other things. For this show. I mean, Eric Kripke's obsession with dicks and balls. Needs to be investigated because once again... For no reason whatsoever. I mean, we've already we already got love sausage. Now we got a guy who uses his balls as a martial arts weapon. It was funny though when Butcher was like, he's all yours. I mean, that's what mother's milk is best at fighting it. Innocent bar related supervillains. I just, again, I just, and again, it's, remember, I just said a few minutes ago, you know, the individual parts does not always equal the whole plus or minded. Right. And that's that in and of itself shouldn't be a thing for issue for me. It should be kind of chuckleworthy, but I've seen it so much in these 5 seasons where it's just like, dude, just fucking stop. Just stop. And it took it, again, I wasn't a fan of, so in this episode, they're trying to find bomb site because he's the one that has V1. So they're like, hey, let's go to his girl, Golden Geisha, and because she's in this home for soups. I wasn't a fan of that, to be fair, I wasn't a fan of that arc as far as going into this home for soups at all in general. So, and then add on that another guy with, you know, genitalia power, and it's, it, that was far and away, the low light of the episode for me. Everything else, I think, was pretty well done, especially watching the, now, I will say there were a couple instances of where it felt like something was cut, where they jumped from one scene to another and it's like, okay, what's, like, there's no explanation of what's going on here or there. I mean, that's little nitpick, but I really like the diet, the dynamic we get between, uh, Homelander and, uh, Soldier Boy, especially after, you know, Sister Sage, you know, you know, drops the, the, the Twitter file of Homelander and Stormfront, you know, when she was a, uh, she was without her some of her limbs. When she was an amputee. Yeah. And but then you get Almost Soldier Boy at the end conceding to Homelander. Because he as selfish as he's been, you know, throughout his career and life as, you know, as a soup. I mean, I don't I wouldn't necessarily call it selfless, but at the same time, he's thinking beyond himself because he says he's like, she would have wanted you to have this. Yeah. Yeah, because he loves. I was actually, yeah, I was very surprised. I wasn't expecting that. I didn't know where they were going where when he had it versus in home. I wasn't expecting that, though. I thought he was going to have Homelander or the virus. Oh. I see what you mean. Yeah. So, um, especially like the way he reacted and stuff. But then, you know. Um, yeah, I, like, um, the scene with Huey and Annie at the church and Oh Father. Um, I, I thought... Like, I feel like they have these characters, and they show these Christian characters, right? And like, obviously, like, you are way more than I am with that stuff. But I do hate the way they just oversimplify religion in this show. Um, to think that like, oh, well, Homelander says he's the savior, even though there's all these videos of bad thing, but we're going to believe in he's good thing, and now mass hysteria is like, yes, Homelander is our savior. The church of Homelander. I just, I think, um, especially with the way they handled firecracker. Like, you know, she's a super Christian character the whole time. But then, like the minute they humanize her, the killer. Yeah. And it was just like, okay, like, I'm kind of sick of that kind of stuff. And it's not even that they, it was just such a cast off on how they did it. It's like, okay, like, I get it. You have to clean house. Like in this episode. Killing Black Noir, the way they deep does it, right? Like, I just don't, I don't, I don't, yeah, that that was, yeah, to be fair, that was another thing that just really, because what the deep did last week with the guy on the toilet, again, yeah. Just the... It's just the 2 has got to die before the series ends. That's all I'm saying How funny would it be if he was the only soup? Then, then, you know, the parts and the sums and the holes one out of 10. Yeah. So yes. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I did like I like this episode. I really like the scene between Sage and Bashley when she drugged Ashley. I thought that was actually really quite well done. Um, and Sage walks out, I got to tear this tracker out of my arm. Like, I thought I thought that was something that was going to lead to something better and obviously it didn't pay off. Right. But, like, Homelander quit go thinking and he was like, hey, I need a tracer for a medical tracer for a person who, you know, it's golden. To see him. It was like, finally, where has this character been? Like, we've seen him in the past. We have not seen him for quite a few mini episodes. Yeah. Also, I will say I did like the scene between him and the legend. Well, yeah, Paul Ryder. He was just like, you know, you're batshit crazy, but that's talent. It's like, no, I'm not afraid of you. I feel for you. I feel free. Yeah, I really like that scene. And then the fact that Homelander letting go after that. I do like that Homelander dead kill the manager from the movie, um, theater because he was a dick to, uh, Chet. Yeah. Vanderbilt. Chet Vanderbilt. Yes, I agree. I really like that scene. And because in most scenes, Anthony Starr just chews up so much screen, like, as far as, like, the other actors in the cast, not named Carl Urban, it was great to watch him take a backseat to Paul Reiser. And Paul Reiser led that scene. And it was like, he absolutely did. I love Paul Reiser. Mad About You is a highly underrated sitcom. Like, it's on the level of Seinfeld and Friends and that kind of stuff in my head. Highly underrated. It's the only time I've ever liked Helen Hunt and anything. Ah, that being said, it was great, like you said, it was it was great. And it was one of these moments where you get to see these guys who are older actors and you just kind of forget about the stuff that they were in. Um, you know, because he was the sidekick in Beverly Hills cop. But, and he was the ass, the corporate asshole, Burke, an alien. Oh yeah. Screw screw them over for the money. I mean, honestly, part of my score for this episode is because of that scene. Like, it probably bumped it up. I mean, I was closer to where you were without that scene. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing with this season has been for me. It's been moments of just, actually, I'll say brilliance. And then moments of just where I just want to bang my head against the wall because stuff that they do is so stupid, so trite. So thoughtless. From character standpoint to situations, I mean, you've mentioned this stuff with the, you know, the Democratic Church of America. Like, oversimplification of stuff. It just it just gets to a point where sometimes it might not, like, just because of what's come before, I might, and I'll admit, sometimes I might not be accurately reflecting my true score, but it's like getting beat over the head with stuff so much where, you mean, you don't like getting beat over the head with balls and dick jokes and phallically powered superheroes. Daryl. Come on You're not kidding anybody. Season 3 when the guy sneezed when he was inside the guy. That was that was pretty funny. Oh God, that was horrible. All right. So out of five, when Homelander goes full Cyclops, what do you give this episode? 3.4 out of five, and it took me a second. I was like, those full cyclops and I was like, oh, that ending scene. Yeah. Uh, yeah, it was a 4.12 out of five. Uh, I think some of this episode was really weak. I think some of this episode was really good, and I think a little bit of this episode was really great. So, yeah, I, yeah. Cool. Well, that's it. Two more? Yeah, 2 more. The next one is called The Frenchman, the Female, and the man called Mother's Milk, and then the finale. The series finale is called Blunted Blood and Bone. And then Fought Rising comes out sometime later this year. Oh yeah. The Citadel is back, by the way, guys. We're definitely going to be talking about that. I watched the first episode of the new season. This is it. There's nothing after this one. Season 2 is the end of the show, the series. But they knew that going in. Um, there's a new character they introduced at the very beginning. He is now officially my favorite character on the show. We will talk about that next week. Also, coming on the 14th is the Punisher one shot. Oh, yeah. So, and then I didn't realize that was a one shot. MK2 is out. Um, this week. So yeah, we'll see. All right. Got anything else you want to add? No, I do not. Okay, one. I do have one last. Yeah. Fuck the NCAA. 76 teams is too many. You can just forget about me watching college basketball. On that note, go Pistons. We'll be back next week. Remember, be infamous.